Gear Ratio Comparison List

Jay

Jay

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Introduction

Right, I'm not going to pretend to be a mathmatical genius or understand how all these little figures do what they do but I thought it was time to list them in the one place.

You can thank Starletto Joz for making me look into this aspect of the running gear - guess I sorta thought I had better give better reasons for hating the non-turbo gearbox than 'I've killed too many'!

Please offer any advice, provide further ratios and correct any mistakes that I have made.


Gear ratio data
All figures are taken from official Toyota source material that is sitting on the desk beside me here. I apologise in advance if I have made any errors.


1996 UKDM 4EFE (C154?)

1st : 3.545
2nd : 1.904
3rd : 1.310
4th : 1.031
5th : 0.864
Reverse : 3.250
Differential ratio : 3.722

Oil capacity : 1.9 litres
Oil viscosity : SAE 75W-90
Oil Grade : GL-4 or 5


1996 JDM 4EFE Glanza S

1st : 3.545
2nd : 1.904
3rd : 1.310
4th : 0.969
5th : 0.815
Reverse : 3.250
Differential gear ratio : 3.722
Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
Oil Grade : unconfirmed


1996 JDM 4EFTE Glanza V

1st : 3.166
2nd : 1.904
3rd : 1.392
4th : 1.031
5th : 0.815
Reverse : 3.250
Differential gear ratio : 3.722
Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
Oil Grade : unconfirmed


1992-1995 4EFTE GT

1st : 3.166
2nd : 1.904
3rd : 1.310
4th : 0.969
5th : 0.815
Reverse : 3.250
Differential gear ratio : 3.722
Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
Oil Grade : unconfirmed


1989-1991 4EFTE GT

1st : 3.166
2nd : 1.904
3rd : 1.310
4th : 0.969
5th : 0.815
Reverse : 3.250
Differential gear ratio : 3.722
Oil Capacity : unconfirmed
Oil viscosity : unconfirmed
Oil Grade : unconfirmed


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And of course it wouldn't be complete without the automatic figures would it?


1996 UKDM 4EFE Automatic (A132L)

1st : 2.810
2nd : 1.549
3rd : 1.000
4th : -
5th : -
Reverse : 2.296
Counter gear ratio : 0.945
Differential gear ratio : 3.526
Fluid Capacity (transmission) : 5.5 litres
Fluid Capacity (Differential) : 1.4 litres
Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


1996 JDM Glanza V Automatic

1st : 3.643
2nd : 2.008
3rd : 1.296
4th : 0.892
5th : -
Reverse : 2.977
Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
Differential gear ratio : 2.821
Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


1992-1995 JDM GT Automatic

1st : 3.643
2nd : 2.008
3rd : 1.296
4th : 0.892
5th : -
Reverse : 2.977
Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
Differential gear ratio : 2.821
Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


1989-1991 JDM GT Automatic

1st : 3.643
2nd : 2.008
3rd : 1.296
4th : 0.892
5th : -
Reverse : 2.977
Counter gear ratio : unconfirmed
Differential gear ratio : 2.962
Fluid Capacity : unconfirmed
Fluid Type : ATF Type DII or Dexron II or Dexron III


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There's a blank template for anyone wishing to add more:

1st :
2nd :
3rd :
4th :
5th :
Reverse :
Differential gear ratio :
Oil Capacity :
Oil viscosity :
Oil Grade :

Hope that's of some use to somebody somewhere.

Jay
 
Jay

Jay

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TRD Gearsets

Thanks to the TRD All Parts Catalog (their spelling not mine) I have the gear ratios offered in the 1996 range. This was just as the Glanza V appeared so they may have revised these ratios in line with it's fat ass..

There appears to be three kits available:

33030-AE001

1st : 2.929
2nd : 2.176
3rd : 1.700
4th : 1.364
5th : 1.167

33030-AE011

1st : 2.438
2nd : 1.944
3rd : 1.600
4th : 1.364
5th : 1.167

33030-AE021

1st : 2.222
2nd : 1.850
3rd : 1.600
4th : 1.4.35
5th : 1.292

All three kits were listed at 250,000yen which today is around the £1400 mark going on today's rates.

Might interest some of our more esteemed members. ;)
 
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PSI JOE

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hmmmm I always though these were the specs for the ratios.


Gear ratios for the C160:
1st 3.166
2nd 2.050
3rd 1.481
4rd 1.166
5th 0.916
6th 0.725
Final drive 4.529

Gear ratios for the C52:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.310
4th 0.969
5th 0.815

Final drive 4.312

Gear ratios for the C56:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.392
4th 1.031
5th 0.815

Final drive 4.312
 
Jay

Jay

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PSI JOE said:
hmmmm I always though these were the specs for the ratios.


Gear ratios for the C160:
1st 3.166
2nd 2.050
3rd 1.481
4rd 1.166
5th 0.916
6th 0.725
Final drive 4.529

Gear ratios for the C52:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.310
4th 0.969
5th 0.815

Final drive 4.312

Gear ratios for the C56:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.392
4th 1.031
5th 0.815

Final drive 4.312
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Where did you get them Joe? I copied mine from the showroom brochures.
 
T

tersplat

Member +
anyone done the 6 speed swap into a starlet or any other E-series motor-equipped car? i'd like to know if indeed ALL the C-series trannies can bolt up and be used with the E series bell housing.
 
Dave.

Dave.

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There are a few on here with the 6 speed gearbox on their starlets :)

the Corolla G6 gearbox seems to be the most common one to swap.

Dave
 
T

Toby@ToyTuning.com

Banned - DO NOT BUY FROM TOYTUNING
Yeah you need the G6R box the G6 box is a little weaker. For reference TRD have dis-continued all gear ratio sets apart from the shortest ratio one, there is only a few of these left in the world but they are suited to low power sprint Starlets. (like hill climbing).

TRD are also discontinuing there bush sets which is why we are frantically trying to get our own poly versions out. They have also discontinued there front anti roll bars. In around a year there won't be much left :(

Good info Jay rep added.

T
 
R

RGM1800

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nice write up jay. blactop tranny has more potential than 4e tranny with these ratios

Gear ratios for the C56:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.392
4th 1.031
5th 0.815

Final drive 4.312
 
NosydneW

NosydneW

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And lets not forget the gear ratios for the C50F
the starlet 4wd gearbox

C50F (4wd box)

1st 3.545
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.310
4th 0.969
5th 0.815

3.250 reverse gear ratio

oil visc: 75W90 GL-5

Final drive:3.722

:rockon:
 
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Sagittarius

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Corolla EE111 EU spec C161
1st : 3,166
2nd :1,904
3rd : 1,233
4th : 0,969
5th : 0,815
6th : 0,628
Reverse : 3,250
Differential gear ratio : 4,529
Oil Capacity : 2,0
Oil viscosity : SAE 75W90
Oil Grade : API GL4 or GL5


EP81/Corolla EE101 EU model (C150)
1st : 3,545
2nd :1,904
3rd : 1,310
4th : 0,969
5th : 0,815
Reverse : 3,250
Differential gear ratio : 4,058
Oil Capacity : 1,9
Oil viscosity : SAE 75W90
Oil Grade : API GL4 or GL5
 
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Sagittarius

Member +
hey jay, this was posted by riko666 once:
sorry for not sorting it to your template lol.

Here are ratios for various C gearboxes:

All C-series transmissions have a 3.250 reverse gear ratio, new generation C55# notwithstanding; they use a 3.214 reverse and 3.944 axle ratio exclusively.

C40/C140
3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969

C50/C150/C50F
3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815

C51/C151
3.545 1.904 1.233 0.885 0.725

C52
3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815

C53/C153/C53A
3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.725

C54/C154
3.545 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.864

C155
3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.725

C56/C56M
3.166 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815

C57
3.166 1.904 1.233 0.969 0.725

C58
3.545 1.904 1.233 0.969 0.725

C59
3.166 1.904 1.310 0.885 0.725

C60/C160
3.166 2.050 1.481 1.166 0.916 0.725

C63
3.166 1.904 1.310 1.031 0.864 0.725

C64
3.166 2.050 1.481 1.166 0.916 0.815

C65/C65M
3.166 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815 0.725

C66/C66M
3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 0.725

C250
3.545 1.904 1.310 1.031 0.815

C251
3.545 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815

C550/C550A/C550K
3.545 1.913 1.310 0.973 0.804

C551/C551A/C551K
3.545 1.913 1.310 1.027 0.850

Among the available axle ratios of the C-series:
3.526 3.722 3.941 4.058 4.312 4.529
 
Aga

Aga

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the G6 gearbox is the same as the levin 6 gear , and they both crumble like cookies vs. the cookie monster , in a 200+ hp starlet.

glanzas have a shorter 3rd and 4th gear, which is a blessing cause thats where the cars really bog down, but still it's not enough.

the 5speed levin and trueno, silvertop and blacktop, have GT and Glanza gear sets accordingly, and one comes with a 4:1 final gear and the other 4.3:1 .

i have c56 (glanza) gearing, combined with the 4.3 final gear, and the car is perfect for racing use, and in-city driving. on the highway it's a bit of a bitch, but i've gotten used to it.

these are some real numbers from my car, with a rev limit of 8.000 and 195/50/15 tires

1st 55kmh, 2nd 100, 3rd 135, 4th 180, 5th around 210-220.
 
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