Repairing Glanza's electrically folding mirrors

ryu

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* Source: www.hadjigeorgiou.com/blog/?p=376

A couple of years ago, driver's side rear view mirror, started giving me trouble. When I was trying to close/open the mirrors, it was very loud and wasn't moving smoothly.

Several days later, the mechanism totally failed, causing the mirror to indefinitely trying to open/close with loud noise. Back then I thought it was just my luck, so took the mirror apart and quickly fixed it.

Lately, I had exactly the same issue with the passenger's side mirror, proving that this is a typical problem with Starlets' electrically folding mirrors' mechanism.

So this time I took my time through the restoration process, taking photos of each step in order to share the solution of this common problem with the world (and for me to remember in the future not to repeat certain mistakes :) ).

First of all get your tools ready. Nothing fancy, just a cross screw driver, cable ties and a 10mm metric socket tool.




Now that you got your toys ready, let's get our hands dirty! First of all, remove the triangle plastic, covering the main screws holding the mirrors. In the photo below you can see how its clips hold it in place, in order to remove it easier. But more or less if you just pull it, it will come off. And then remove the 3 10mm screws *it was covering.

*NOTE* After removing those screws, mirror *will be holding off the power mirrors wiring. So you'd better hold it, or perform the next step first.



In order to remove the power mirrors' plug, some door trimming has to be removed. First remove the cross screw from the door handle. Then pull it out/forwards the dash (notice the hook clip holding it). Then remove the 2 annoying plastic screws holding the upper part of the door trim. The right one can be removed right away. The left one is hidden under the door's card board, so you have to pull that our first. Finally lift the plastic trimming, find beneath the power mirrors' plug and remove it.



No more foreplay, let's get into serious stuff now! :)

Here is a very very VERY important step, which would save me lot's of time and some money too if I knew it in advance, is found in the photo below. Removing the glass mirror off the rest of the assembly. Have a close look how its clips are, and judge on how you are going to pull it out.

"1" is the bottom part of the mirror. You have to pull it out gently and evenly. After doing that, you lift the mirror upwards, and then pull out the "2" clips.



Becareful not to confuse where each type of clip is, or applying excessive force. It's BAD!

So, after this step you can see cleary the power mirrors mechanism, and you might immediately notice what has gone bad in there! If not, you are not paying enough attention, but there is more work to be done before you can actually access the problematic part.

Remove the various surrounding parts from the mirror assembly. A waterproof cover, the 3 screws under the mirror holding it on its base, a plastic clip holding down the wire, and the plastic cover. All of these are easily removed, but try to remember what goes where, and where you removed each screw from.



After remove all the above parts, you will end up with a "bowl of motors". There are 5 or 6 screws holding the 2 power mirror mechanisms down (mirror adjusting and mirror folding motors). As soon as you remove them, then you can take everything out.





Have a closer look now. Do you see what's the problem? The whole folding mechanism is held together by its plastic cover. The plastic clips holding the cover down, are too tiny, so they easy break and the gears inside won't contact each other. Feel free to open the cover and see, but it's messy in there, full of grease.

By now I believe you have guessed what's the solution to this problem. CABLE TIES! Put them around the plastic cover, in order to hold it down.

The ones I had, were a bit thick and short. But since I couldn't be bothered much, I used to of them. When using thick cable ties, make sure that their ends won't be in the mirror's way when adjusting it.



Well, that was all! Now just follow the reverse procedure to assemble your mirror.

If you end up with some extra screws, no worries. That's typical for every DIY job, not to say a tradition! :)

You all done now! Go wash those dirty hands!

I hope someone will find this little tutorial useful.
 
Good write up dude well done. The
thing I found with the mirrors is
they need lube as they get sticky
from car washes and what not. So
for people who are having a
problem at the mo with them I
would suggest you get some wd40
and spray it on the joints and
behind the mirror before you go
pulling it apart as it does work a
treat. I've done i with my own
when they started sticking my
mates do the same on their jap
cars too.
 

ryu

Fresh Recruit
good write up, hopefully it will make me get off my ass and finally sort mine out! lol

That's how I was feeling like last time I got this problem and I kept postponing fixing it.

Until I accidentally pressed the button to fold the mirrors, and the motor got in a very loud endless loop. So I was forced to get off my ass and fix it.

So an alternative solution to remain sitted on ur ass, would be to cover the button with a piece of tape or something :p
 
good stuff..rep added

question - my driver's side folding motor like it has gone bad.....do u know if the ep82 motor is the same?---or they two seperate motors.. 1) for folding and 1) adjusting the mirror itself or are they a combined uint?

my mirror adjusts from inside the car, BUT does not fold (that motor seems dead)
 

ryu

Fresh Recruit
good stuff..rep added

question - my driver's side folding motor like it has gone bad.....do u know if the ep82 motor is the same?---or they two seperate motors.. 1) for folding and 1) adjusting the mirror itself or are they a combined uint?

my mirror adjusts from inside the car, BUT does not fold (that motor seems dead)


It's 2 separate mechanisms. Not 100% sure if the motor is identical, but I believe should be more or less the same.

Does it respond at all (sounds/movement) when you try to fold it?
 
It's 2 separate mechanisms. Not 100% sure if the motor is identical, but I believe should be more or less the same.

Does it respond at all (sounds/movement) when you try to fold it?


no,,it doesnot respond at all when i try to fold it....i have to move it by hand...lol--like a non-retractable mirror

the passenger side however, operates perfectly using the retract button
 

ryu

Fresh Recruit
no,,it doesnot respond at all when i try to fold it....i have to move it by hand...lol--like a non-retractable mirror

the passenger side however, operates perfectly using the retract button


If you hear/feel the motors working while folding it by hand right after pressing the retract button, then I guess your folding mirror is either stuck, or for some reason the motor is very weak. You can try fixing this with lots of WD40 as Corey_gt correctly suggested earlier.

If not, then start looking for a replacement mirror assembly :(
 

ryu

Fresh Recruit
Thank you for your positive comments guys, despite this being just a simple procedure.

Got some more write ups in my blog of my Glanza mods, but some of them lack of detail.

When I get the time I will add some detail to them and post them here.

Until then, feel free to browse around :)
 
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